Silence your inner critic with Mary Cheyne, Episode #71 of the Technology = Equality Podcast.

How do you get over yourself and your fears?

Listen in and learn how to silence your inner critic, the unspoken hurdle professional

public speakers don’t speak of publicly!

Silence your inner critic with Mary Cheyne, Episode #71 of the Technology = Equality Podcast.Mary Cheyne, the 2009 World Championship of Public Speaking 1st Runner-up, of 25,000 contestants from over 14 countries, is helping you to face your fears, silence your inner critic and live your dreams. Today Mary is a public speaking coach and author of the Amazon best-selling book “Present Yourself In Public Speaking”. Mary’s professional career began as a computer programmer. When office meetings made her nervous and her inner critic took over, Mary decided to face her fears and make the pivot of a lifetime. Taking each step at her own pace, Mary discovered the importance of self-reflection, a new passion, and life plan. Join the Technology = Equality Community for episode #71 as Mary shares her entrepreneurial journey from China to Australia to the United States and beyond.

 

Silence your inner critic with Mary

Cheyne, Episode #71 of the Technology

= Equality Podcast.

“How does it manifest in myself when the fear comes up?” ~Mary Cheyne

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Strategy: Learn how to bring yourself into the here and now to develop a greater understanding of you. Be honest with yourself to understand which internal changes are required for you to reach your desired level of success. To gain clarity on how to begin making a major personal change, start by answering the following questions; How is it that fear manifests in your life? How is it that you allow fear to hold you back from your goals? Create a goal which personally motivates you. As you learn more about yourself and take small steps one by one, you’ll gain confidence and begin seeing personal progress. Apply the knowledge you gain as you continue to grow. Research the market you would like to serve to recognize which needs are not being served or solved.

Wisdom: You don’t have very long to grab the attention of an audience, make your introduction memorable. Challenge your audience with a question which addresses the purpose of your presentation.

Wish: Let’s help Mary silence as many “Inner Critics” across the globe as possible! Silence your inner critic with Mary Cheyne, Episode #71 of the Technology = Equality Podcast.

Tools: Mary’s Best Selling Book

“Present” Yourself in Public Speaking – Tell Your Inner Critic to SHUT UP! And the Real You to SPEAK UP!

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Click Here to book a 20-minute Discovery call with Mary to see how she might be able to help you.

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Silence your inner critic with Mary Cheyne, Episode #71 of the Technology = Equality Podcast.Silence your inner critic with Mary Cheyne, Episode #71 of the Technology = Equality Podcast.

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you hear it all the time you're like

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feel your fear what does that mean for

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people how does it manifest in myself

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when the fear comes up broadcasting from

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Boston Massachusetts you're listening to

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the technology equals a quality podcast

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welcome back to you the technology

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because a quality podcast I'm your host

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Lori Brooks and this it's episode 71 I

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have the absolute pleasure of welcoming

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Mary Sheen to the show today

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she is an award-winning communicator and

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the founder of magnetic podium an

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organization that helps people find

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their unique voice and communicate with

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impact and she's based right here in

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Boston Mass Mary began her career in

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software development and later

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discovered she had a passion for

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training and motivational speaking

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during her 15 plus years of experience

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training and speaking to over 15,000

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people from more than 25 cities in

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multiple countries mary has learned one

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important thing to communicate and

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persuade effectively the first person

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you need to convince is yourself guided

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by this principle mary has devised tools

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and techniques to help you communicate

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and influence with impact Mary welcome

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and thank you so much for joining us

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today I'm very happy to be here thank

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you for inviting me

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certainly so Mary before we jump into

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the actual entrepreneurial journey we

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kind of want to rewind the clock a

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little bit and have you tell us the

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story about where your mindset was and

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what you thought life would be like long

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before you became an entrepreneur maybe

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go back to your teenage years and and

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tell us the story of what you thought

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life would be like Wow going all the way

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back in those years mm-hmm that's a

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great question

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well I can tell you that what I'm doing

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now wouldn't definitely not be in my

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mind view back then I can start you off

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back in college for example I had

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studied computing science that was my

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undergrad and started working in the IT

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field as a computer programmer a cool

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thing

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and was very very self-conscious as a

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person speaking in front of a group and

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that's one of the reasons that I ended

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up working in this field and trying to

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get better at what I'm doing which is

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speaking in front of a group because I

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did not start out that way and it's

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difficult to go back all the way back to

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what did you say teenage years because

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it's I think like many of us back when

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we're in teenage years we may not have

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such a long view of life as to what we

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want to do but all I knew was that I

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enjoyed inspiring people but obviously I

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didn't know how to do that I just knew

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that I myself enjoyed being inspired by

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people who have achieved things in life

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especially the stories that I hear where

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people came from almost nothing and then

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made something of themselves and

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inspiring others to do the same so I

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knew that that going into college that

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that was my mindset but what I found

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myself doing was what I thought I

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enjoyed which is more the technical

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aspect of computer programming and being

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mathematically minded and being heavily

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influenced by my parents it's probably

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not obvious by my accent because I'm

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from Australia but my background is that

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parents who are from Chinese background

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non-english speaking background from

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parents who are immigrants you probably

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know that the tradition of how I was

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raised was study hard get a good job and

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of the story continued doing that and so

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that's what I did I was a obedient child

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needed a good education to begin with so

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the entrepreneurial path and writing a

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book all of that was definitely not on

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my mind

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at certain growing up in that background

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how I ended up where I am and just

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following what I loved and at each point

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in my life when something didn't work

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anymore or I'm not so much enjoying this

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anymore it's not really taking me where

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I want to go or where I see myself going

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and then having the conscious mind set

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to make a shift and then create the

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actions in my life to move that shift

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into reality does that make sense

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totally no it totally does I love how

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you started off in an area that was

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completely unrelated to public speaking

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and and that's kind of why I like

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bringing out that backstory and that's

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why that first question of the show is

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what it is because I love hearing the

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different where someone thought they

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were going to be and what they thought

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their career would look like to where

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they are today and you may follow that

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degree or that career path for a decade

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or two and then completely change your

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idea altogether and I loved how you made

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you know a complete pivot from computer

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programming to public speaking and

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becoming an entrepreneur and and

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becoming an author I'd love to know

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while you were dealing with your own

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nerves and your own hesitation what was

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it that drove you to begin branding

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yourself what were those first steps

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that you took that kind of launched you

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in the direction of okay maybe I should

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remove myself from where I am today how

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did you get to that mindset and thought

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process of making those first steps

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the things I want to highlight for your

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listeners is for me it wasn't a big bang

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shift it wasn't like oh I'm doing

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computing science and programming one

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day and the next day or by tomorrow I'm

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going to be a professional speaker it

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didn't work out it didn't work like that

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at all for me it was baby steps and in

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fact when I started learning public

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speaking and learning

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to be a good speaker I didn't even have

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in my mind that I was one day going to

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be a professional speaker professional

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drain and author that wasn't even on my

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mind I just took steps towards my own

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growth and while I was in my full-time

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job so I started joining an organization

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called Toastmasters International which

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you may have heard of it's a nonprofit

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organization where you go and learn to

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speak and to be honest with you Laurie

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my initial goal was I want to be able to

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speak without in public in front of a

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group of people without feeling

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self-conscious that was my only goal

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right and to be I mean I was given

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example I was one of those people that

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if I had a say I work meeting in the

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afternoon and I knew there was a chance

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I'd be called upon in that meeting my

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whole morning was ruined because I would

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be stressed out about what if I was

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called to speak and stumbled with my

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words and more importantly embarrass

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myself in front of my co-workers but I

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heard that that's the way I started from

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so I was certainly not someone who was

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born with the skill or was you know very

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articulate naturally articulate as you

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know the first seven years of my life I

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actually spoke Chinese because I was

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born in Hong Kong and in my family

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emigrated to Australia where I shifted

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languages and learn the whole new

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language so I was not naturally

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would articulate the way I would sound

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and whatever they asked me a question

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that I don't know and what if when I

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answered it I sound stupid that's what I

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mean by self-consciousness and we can

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expand a lot more about that but that's

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what I began so it wasn't like something

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that I planned out from the beginning

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and then as I took steps to improve as a

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speaker and found mentors in my life I'm

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one of those people who I am very very

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encouraging of myself to learn from

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others I have no qualms about no I have

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to do this all nice

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if someone has an ability that they've

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worked on and they're willing to teach

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me or I'm willing to learn from them

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then I'm gonna take that shortcut and

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say you know what I'm gonna take that

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leap and learn with this person so that

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I can shortcut my own path why not take

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that exponential growth when it's there

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as opposed to trying to do everything

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myself and so I learned from the best in

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the world I learned from these mentors

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who were the past winners of a contest

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called the world's championship of

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public speaking most people when I tell

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them this thing they've never even heard

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of this contest most people haven't but

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the people in the public speaking world

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have heard of it and it's a an annual

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contest where between 25,000 and 35,000

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contestants from around the world from

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14 plus countries entered this contest

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so these these people who had learned

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from had won these contests so and they

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would say to me Mary it's not about

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getting up and speaking and then making

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a fool of yourself it's not about that

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that may happen and probably does happen

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right when you start out it certainly

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happened with me a lot they said it's

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about having that happen and then having

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the courage to come back the next day

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that's what it was about so I listened

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to these mentors and like yourself I'm a

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very good student right I'm very proud

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of the fact that I'm very good student

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what I learned I apply in my life

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because I understand it if I'm not

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applying it in my life we were just

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talking about this just before we hopped

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on the interview if I'm not applying it

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in my life then it just becomes

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theoretical knowledge and I'm not using

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it to benefit myself in any way right so

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I would apply what they told me and I

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would speak and I would speaking slowly

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by slowly my confidence started to

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increase and my whole goal was you know

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what I just want to be on it on in front

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of a group of people and be able to

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speak and just be comfortable in my own

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skin

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that was my goal right and so over the

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years as that started to happen and I

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was able to articulate myself more as

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myself you know more conversational

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and then working on my craft and then

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going through that journey of becoming a

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better speaker I started to notice that

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the there is a parallel path to becoming

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a better speaker and that was becoming a

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better of myself if that makes sense so

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what I mean by that which is actually

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what the topic of my book ended up being

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about is there's noticing that I am the

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biggest obstacle in my own way and and

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now having trained thousands of students

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and coached hundreds of people I started

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noticing that there was a pattern with

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us as human beings and that is that we

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let fear get in our way and when that

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happened and we don't take the actions

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to do what we want because of fear then

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we need to look at that more closely we

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need to address that more closely and so

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that's that's what my journey has been

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like and then as I got more confident as

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a speaker I realized that what I was

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finding out about this process of

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becoming a better speaker becoming

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getting over yourself and and learning

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how to get over your own fears that

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wasn't taught as something as common

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with in public speaking education in

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itself right I mean for exact what I

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mean by that is for example I mentioned

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the Toastmasters right that's a great

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place for you to practice in front of

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this ëismí to practice in front of but

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even in the education that I would

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invest in to learn about public speaking

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it was focused more on the mechanics of

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the craft so you know how do you stand

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how do you use your voice vocal variety

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how do you tell engaging stories all

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that is important but nobody was talking

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about the biggest obstacle that was

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getting in everyone's way when they're

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nervous or when they're outside their

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comfort zone which is how do you deal

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with it with your own inner critic how

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do you deal with your own

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self-consciousness and and the self-talk

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that goes on that might stop you from

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making progress not just in public

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speaking in you know but in grow in your

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own growth in itself and in life right

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nobody was addressing that so I felt it

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more important to address that component

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and how what are the processes that I

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use in my own life to get over my own

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self-consciousness around public

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speaking and in general the fears in

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general and feeling the need to share

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that message and feeling the need to

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spread that message so that more people

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can use and learn and use these tools

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that I invented for myself so that I

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could continually step outside of my own

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comfort zone and not let the fears stop

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me so it was more to a very very

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long-winded answer to your question it

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was more from the trajectory of how I

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became you know how I came from computer

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programming background to what I do now

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is it's just feeling the need and the

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passion around sharing what I've learned

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with others so that it benefits them in

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their life that's where the drive comes

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from and then so that taking myself on

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that path of being an entrepreneur and

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being an author and and spreading that

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message has become my new mission

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because I know that that's a way of

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reaching more people I love how you

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explain those stats because of a need

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that you had you were extremely nervous

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when you were going to meetings and the

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only thing that you were searching for

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was to solve your own need so that you

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could be comfortable when speaking in

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public that's what drove you to take

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that next step to join Toastmasters

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International to then gain the

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confidence in yourself to find the

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mentors to work with you to take the

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knowledge that you gained from your

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mentors apply it and to go even further

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to recognize that you know what I've

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applied this knowledge I'm moving

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forward with my own public speaking but

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why is nobody addressing an alternate

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need a niche that you then found through

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looking at something that you wanted to

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solve and that turned into the fact that

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nobody was really taking care of the

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comfort

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peace and the recognition of so many

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struggling with that inner voice and it

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turned it into a passion for you to help

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others solve that problem and I think

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your explanation of the progression of

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how that came about was excellent

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it's a pivot it's not a straight path

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you don't jump onto an entrepreneurial

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journey at all times with a goal at the

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end that you're just shooting for some

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people do that and that's excellent but

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there are a number of entrepreneurs that

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I have personally spoken with and

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interviewed at this point as well as

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millions across the globe whose journey

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does not look anything like a straight

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path it varies it deviates and the

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differences come from the different

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aspects of things that you're attempting

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to accomplish Mary what do you feel was

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one of the most difficult pieces for you

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as you began taking on the journey as an

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entrepreneur once you decided okay you

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know what this is a need that I really

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do need to help others solve I have to

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help them recognize how to make their

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inner critic shut up what did you find

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to be the biggest hurdle for you in

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making that pivot in your journey I

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think the biggest hurdle is and and I

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think people can relate to this is fear

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okay and also I want to make it clear I

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mean you heard my journey and now you

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know where I am I published this book

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and I have you know I hold boot camps

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where people come and learn this

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material the book is great in itself but

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then being able to guide people through

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it live and through in-person through

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training programs which is what I am

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that that's now my profession is to

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train people in this kind of work in how

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to get over their own fears not just

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around public speaking even though it

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looks like that but it's the space that

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it opens up once you learn the process

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of handling your own fears and managing

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it and not letting it stop you even

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though that is what I do I want to be

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clear that I'm not exempt from fear I am

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not exempt from when I step outside my

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own comfort zone continuously that the

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fears are going to come up again so

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every time there's change ie going from

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for example going from an employee to

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my own path of being an entrepreneur or

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even at launching my own book for

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example there was fear around that

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because it's something I've never done

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before right so overcoming that and the

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processes of overcoming the the internal

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fears of what may happen what what is I

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mean fear is like such a big umbrella

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right you hear it all the time you're

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like see your fear here first when we

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really break it down and say practically

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speaking what does that mean what does

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that mean for people how does it

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manifest in myself when the fear comes

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up well a very obvious way of noticing

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the fear that comes up is paying

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attention to your own internal dialogue

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right so fear for example might sound

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like and in this specific question

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you're asking going from changing from

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one profession to another such as an

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entrepreneur is path the fear in your

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own head might sound like what if I fail

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what if I try this and it doesn't work

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what if I publish the book and no one

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reads there it's gonna everyone's going

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to know that I'm I suck everyone's going

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to know that you know like all of that

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garbage that goes on what if what if

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what if and and I talk about this in

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detail in my book and in my boot camps

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but it basically comes from the same

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area that we all have in our brains

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which is the the part of our brain that

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tries to protect us from from from harm

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right and it's not a bad thing I'm not

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saying that we shouldn't have you or

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that oh I wish we didn't have for you

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it's there for a purpose and that's what

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I mean the the message I'm trying to

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convey here is the fear is there for

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purpose and it's for the purpose of

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trying to protect us trying to avoid

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perceived harm what if I do fail well

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like so it's not just physical pain or

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physical survival it's also perceived

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pain perceived pain of failure of

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embarrassment of doing something and

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it's not going to work out so that is

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always going to be in our way whenever

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we attempt to change anything in our

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lives whenever we try to step outside

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our comfort zone whether it's speaking

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from a group that you're not used to or

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thing your career to be an entrepreneur

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which is not really define the path

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right which is why scary I mean think

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about this all our lives most of us we

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hear the same story which is go to

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school get good grades get a good job

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right that's pretty much what's been

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conditioned in our head so anything

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outside of that that neroon path is

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going to be scary because there are a

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lot of unknown variables and a lot of

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problems that come out and you have to

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be able to solve those problems right

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and this the anticipation of the unknown

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and the and the uncertainty around all

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of this shift in change in ourselves is

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what's going to come up so to answer

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your question that has been that has

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been the most challenging part is to be

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very aware of that as it comes up and

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then having the tools to know how to

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manage that so that the see of my own

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fear my own internal dialogue that tries

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to stop me from growing because it tries

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to despair me from pain and then being

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aware of that and then moving forward

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any way that that has been at the most

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difficult part I have had the

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opportunity to read your book present

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yourself in public speaking and we will

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be sure to put a link to that on the

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show notes page because I'd like for the

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audience to have the ability in the

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access to the book I think it has been

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very definitive in my journey to branch

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out into public speaking even though I

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do the podcast guys I too struggle with

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that fear you know marry you and I were

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we're touching base on that before we

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got on the call recording a podcast with

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someone is very different than live

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webinar or a live presentation in front

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of a group and I have found that the

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tips the tricks and the tools that are

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included have been very instrumental in

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in my own journey so I look forward to

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making sure that that's available to the

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listeners so Mary what do you feel was a

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lesson that may have surprised you

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during this journey what do you feel

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like was something that you learned that

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you didn't even have a clue you were

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going to come across during your turn

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that's a great question and I'm going to

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go back to the same answer because that

523
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:08,409
it is actually the truth is

524
00:22:04,970 --> 00:22:10,880
that I didn't realize in the infalling

525
00:22:08,409 --> 00:22:13,480
where my heart tells me to go which is

526
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:16,010
what I usually the joy like where where

527
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,530
the direction that I tend to gravitate

528
00:22:16,010 --> 00:22:22,520
towards is what brings me joy in my life

529
00:22:18,530 --> 00:22:25,130
right what what and being very honest

530
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,230
with myself to say okay the path but I'm

531
00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:29,750
traveling right now is no longer

532
00:22:27,230 --> 00:22:31,700
bringing me the joy that it used to for

533
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:33,740
various reasons and and mostly probably

534
00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:36,919
because I grown in a different direction

535
00:22:33,740 --> 00:22:39,320
or what used to bring me joy and

536
00:22:36,919 --> 00:22:41,360
happiness no longer does programming

537
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,750
used I used to enjoy it I used to like

538
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:48,169
it but what I started noticing was it

539
00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:51,260
wasn't bringing me joy because what

540
00:22:48,169 --> 00:22:53,090
brought me joy was making a difference

541
00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:57,380
with people you know seeing their eyes

542
00:22:53,090 --> 00:22:59,330
light up and just being able to help

543
00:22:57,380 --> 00:23:01,400
people transform themselves the way I've

544
00:22:59,330 --> 00:23:03,590
helped myself transform right and then

545
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:07,010
bringing that message across and then

546
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:08,510
taking notice of that and then most

547
00:23:07,010 --> 00:23:11,750
importantly doing something about it

548
00:23:08,510 --> 00:23:13,820
right so moving away from what I don't

549
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:18,559
like anymore to what I what resonates

550
00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:20,750
with my heart and my inner calling so to

551
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:22,549
speak right sometimes we hear that we

552
00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:25,130
kind of kind of know that what we're

553
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:27,350
doing doesn't work for us anymore but

554
00:23:25,130 --> 00:23:29,360
then it takes a little while for us to

555
00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:31,370
sort of admit that to ourselves and then

556
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,980
more importantly taking the concrete

557
00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:35,630
steps to to make a change in our lives

558
00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:37,549
right and as we mentioned earlier as you

559
00:23:35,630 --> 00:23:39,549
were mentioning about baby steps right

560
00:23:37,549 --> 00:23:45,049
it's all about the baby steps baby steps

561
00:23:39,549 --> 00:23:46,580
but what I was surprised and actually in

562
00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:49,250
hindsight I shouldn't be surprised is

563
00:23:46,580 --> 00:23:54,080
how stubborn I was internally about

564
00:23:49,250 --> 00:23:55,730
making a change it was it was knowing

565
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,020
that in theory yeah I need to get away

566
00:23:55,730 --> 00:23:59,179
from this yeah this is no longer

567
00:23:57,020 --> 00:24:01,309
bringing me joy and then to the the

568
00:23:59,179 --> 00:24:04,400
point where I actually make changes even

569
00:24:01,309 --> 00:24:06,530
if they are baby step changes to finally

570
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:11,000
admit to myself you know I need to make

571
00:24:06,530 --> 00:24:15,440
these changes so the the length of time

572
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,390
that it took for me to finally decide

573
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,770
okay

574
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:22,450
because it's based on a decision and

575
00:24:19,770 --> 00:24:25,180
when I say decide I I mean it with a

576
00:24:22,450 --> 00:24:28,000
capital D right I've decided this is

577
00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:30,640
what I'm doing right until I got to that

578
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,010
point where I totally am going to shift

579
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,680
and know that I'm 100% certain I'm going

580
00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:41,820
to shift it's no longer a question it's

581
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:41,820
just a matter of stepping into that the

582
00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:49,060
internal kicking and kicking and digging

583
00:24:45,460 --> 00:24:51,520
my heels in so to speak before I made

584
00:24:49,060 --> 00:24:54,580
that decision that capital D decision

585
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,170
raised probably in hindsight what what

586
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:59,410
if I had to you know go back and tell

587
00:24:56,170 --> 00:25:01,180
myself to do is just be like girl don't

588
00:24:59,410 --> 00:25:03,190
be so stubborn you know just do it you

589
00:25:01,180 --> 00:25:06,640
know you're gonna so you may have to do

590
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:10,750
it now you know and then just um having

591
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:13,750
that that that internal voice to calm

592
00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:15,790
down much more quickly but I do this

593
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:18,280
like like every other human being you

594
00:25:15,790 --> 00:25:20,590
know I'm not exempt from it and what do

595
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,320
I do in that moment I use the same tools

596
00:25:20,590 --> 00:25:24,640
as I always do I walk my talk get to

597
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,160
that point where I've make that decision

598
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:30,700
and and usually when I get to the point

599
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:34,240
that it becomes more painful to stay

600
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:36,160
where I am than it is to make the

601
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,780
decision to change right then the pain

602
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,000
that is the changes are going to cause

603
00:25:37,780 --> 00:25:42,370
initially right so when that pain of

604
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,850
staying is greater than the anticipated

605
00:25:42,370 --> 00:25:48,880
pain of moving of changing that that's

606
00:25:45,850 --> 00:25:51,550
when the change happens I talk about

607
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,080
this in my book as well but um if I was

608
00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:57,190
to go back I would you know definitely

609
00:25:53,080 --> 00:26:00,040
coach myself to make that time a smaller

610
00:25:57,190 --> 00:26:03,010
window right the longer window that he

611
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,380
ended up taking but but I do follow I do

612
00:26:03,010 --> 00:26:07,720
subscribe to unfoldment and just

613
00:26:05,380 --> 00:26:09,670
allowing the self-discovery to take

614
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,280
place and and not to be too harsh on

615
00:26:09,670 --> 00:26:14,860
myself around that but certainly that

616
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,800
that that's what what surprised me the

617
00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:22,150
most is how internally stubborn I was

618
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:24,880
before I made that change I love that

619
00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:26,500
Mary oh I love your candid this on that

620
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,780
and I think it's you know it's something

621
00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:29,560
that we as entrepreneurs probably don't

622
00:26:28,780 --> 00:26:32,140
talk about

623
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,060
as much as we should I have yet to meet

624
00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:37,090
an entrepreneur who hasn't had to do

625
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:39,940
some sort of self-reflection and wake up

626
00:26:37,090 --> 00:26:42,550
moments on different areas of life and

627
00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:44,500
taking ownership and application of baby

628
00:26:42,550 --> 00:26:45,910
step is very important and that's funny

629
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:47,740
that that was one of the more surprising

630
00:26:45,910 --> 00:26:49,750
parts I think it is something that

631
00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:52,750
surprises all of us but it's very seldom

632
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:55,450
discussed that's right what I'd love for

633
00:26:52,750 --> 00:26:57,550
you to do is tell us a little bit more

634
00:26:55,450 --> 00:27:00,550
about your book present yourself in

635
00:26:57,550 --> 00:27:02,890
public speaking and tell us who the book

636
00:27:00,550 --> 00:27:04,930
is really designed for is it designed

637
00:27:02,890 --> 00:27:06,400
for those that are becoming public

638
00:27:04,930 --> 00:27:08,500
speakers or do you feel like there's a

639
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,930
wider audience I personally felt like

640
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:13,090
there was a larger application sure so

641
00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:15,640
that the title of the book is present

642
00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:18,580
yourself in public speaking and the word

643
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,230
present is in inverted commas and the

644
00:27:18,580 --> 00:27:23,320
reason for that is it's a play on words

645
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:25,720
so the word present mean meaning being

646
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,690
present in front of a room being here in

647
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:32,110
the now present as in presentations and

648
00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:35,440
quiz present as in it's a gift to the

649
00:27:32,110 --> 00:27:38,020
audience right so if you can be present

650
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,450
being in here and then now with the

651
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:43,210
audience while you're in presentation

652
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:45,520
mode then then in itself is a gift to

653
00:27:43,210 --> 00:27:49,750
your audience right so instead of

654
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:51,910
focusing entirely on the content or that

655
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:54,250
inner dialogue that goes on in your head

656
00:27:51,910 --> 00:27:56,500
to make yourself self-conscious in front

657
00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:58,540
of an audience if that wasn't there then

658
00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:00,010
then what is possible right what

659
00:27:58,540 --> 00:28:01,870
connection can you have with the

660
00:28:00,010 --> 00:28:04,120
audience in that space because they're

661
00:28:01,870 --> 00:28:06,220
also giving you the gift of their time

662
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:08,260
and their attention how do you then make

663
00:28:06,220 --> 00:28:10,390
the most out of that and the subtitle is

664
00:28:08,260 --> 00:28:14,800
tell your inner critic to shut up and

665
00:28:10,390 --> 00:28:18,130
the real you to speak up and I think the

666
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,050
subtitle kind of tells it in more detail

667
00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:23,230
as to what you can expect in the book

668
00:28:20,050 --> 00:28:26,080
and it really is a book about the

669
00:28:23,230 --> 00:28:28,810
internal processes of how to get over

670
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,840
your inner critic and to allow the

671
00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:34,150
authentic you the person that's inside

672
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,040
there who has a message who has

673
00:28:34,150 --> 00:28:39,550
something from the heart that they want

674
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:42,190
to share who has a message that they

675
00:28:39,550 --> 00:28:43,180
know is that if it's given to the

676
00:28:42,190 --> 00:28:45,220
audience it's going to make

677
00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:46,960
difference for them that is the person

678
00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:51,100
that I want to be in front of the room

679
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:53,020
speaking versus the inner critic which

680
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,640
in terms of internal dialogue might

681
00:28:53,020 --> 00:28:56,260
sound like when you're in front of the

682
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,060
room it might sound like this what are

683
00:28:56,260 --> 00:29:00,580
people gonna think of me how are people

684
00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:01,330
going to judge me I hope I don't sound

685
00:29:00,580 --> 00:29:03,850
like an idiot

686
00:29:01,330 --> 00:29:05,950
I hope what I'm saying makes sense I

687
00:29:03,850 --> 00:29:08,680
hope I prepared enough so all of that

688
00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:11,290
internal dialogue gets in the way

689
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,960
between the speaker and the audience and

690
00:29:11,290 --> 00:29:17,170
so the book is about how do you get rid

691
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:19,210
of all that muck all of that the

692
00:29:17,170 --> 00:29:22,810
internal dialogue that goes on that

693
00:29:19,210 --> 00:29:24,640
becomes an invisible wall between you

694
00:29:22,810 --> 00:29:27,580
and the audience because if you're

695
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:30,040
focusing on the internal dialogue how on

696
00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:32,410
earth can you focus on the audience and

697
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,570
and benefiting them right so and that is

698
00:29:32,410 --> 00:29:37,390
a journey it's um it doesn't come

699
00:29:34,570 --> 00:29:39,640
naturally for a lot of people myself

700
00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:42,460
included it did not come naturally to me

701
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:45,010
but the good news is that there are

702
00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:46,990
processes that that I teach in the book

703
00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:49,090
where you can follow as you were saying

704
00:29:46,990 --> 00:29:50,740
you you are like one of my best students

705
00:29:49,090 --> 00:29:55,590
because you actually apply within the

706
00:29:50,740 --> 00:29:57,730
book in your life and to see how you can

707
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:59,830
not allow that inner critic that

708
00:29:57,730 --> 00:30:03,280
internal negative dialogue to get in the

709
00:29:59,830 --> 00:30:05,610
way of your actions and to answer your

710
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:09,220
question it is actually applicable to

711
00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:10,720
not just public speaking but to anyone

712
00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:12,670
who wants to grow beyond their own

713
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,790
comfort zone public speaking is an

714
00:30:12,670 --> 00:30:16,930
obvious front door because most people

715
00:30:15,790 --> 00:30:18,640
when they get in front of the room and

716
00:30:16,930 --> 00:30:20,170
they're outside their comfort zone they

717
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,850
are going to experience that inner

718
00:30:20,170 --> 00:30:23,830
critic they are going to experience that

719
00:30:21,850 --> 00:30:25,780
inner dialogue that gets in the way

720
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:27,160
between them and connecting with the

721
00:30:25,780 --> 00:30:29,200
audience and so there is an obvious

722
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,990
front door but the tools that you learn

723
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,910
and to apply to your life is going to be

724
00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:35,890
beneficial to you in all walks of life

725
00:30:33,910 --> 00:30:37,810
such as what we were just talking about

726
00:30:35,890 --> 00:30:39,400
when you're shifting careers or when

727
00:30:37,810 --> 00:30:41,200
you're pivoting to you know from an

728
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,390
employee mindset to an entrepreneurial

729
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,430
mindset that inner critic is going to

730
00:30:43,390 --> 00:30:47,260
come up and it's the same in a critic

731
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:49,390
because you are the common denominator

732
00:30:47,260 --> 00:30:51,160
of all of your experiences whether

733
00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:53,410
you're public speaking or whether you're

734
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,430
in another arena in your life where

735
00:30:53,410 --> 00:30:56,650
you're outside your comfort right

736
00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:59,620
they're the same you know critic that

737
00:30:56,650 --> 00:31:01,210
Rock Witter brain is gonna come up so

738
00:30:59,620 --> 00:31:03,910
the question then becomes okay now I

739
00:31:01,210 --> 00:31:05,380
know they said how what do I do about it

740
00:31:03,910 --> 00:31:08,170
right and that is what the book is about

741
00:31:05,380 --> 00:31:10,060
it tells you it goes through processes

742
00:31:08,170 --> 00:31:11,860
that I've developed that explain in

743
00:31:10,060 --> 00:31:14,560
there with many many many examples from

744
00:31:11,860 --> 00:31:17,410
my coaching clients as well as my

745
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:20,410
training students so you get to see a

746
00:31:17,410 --> 00:31:22,060
variety of real-life examples of what

747
00:31:20,410 --> 00:31:23,560
people go through when they're trying to

748
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:26,080
break outside their comfort zone in

749
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,000
public speaking and even in general so

750
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,070
you get to realize my whole goal of

751
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,470
writing the book is for for the person

752
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:34,960
reading it to come to the conclusion

753
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:39,340
which is oh I'm normal

754
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:41,710
oh there's nothing wrong with me oh not

755
00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:44,170
the only one oh this one actually I can

756
00:31:41,710 --> 00:31:45,820
do about it right and then be able to do

757
00:31:44,170 --> 00:31:48,130
that I'll give you an example I was

758
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:50,110
speaking to a group of entrepreneurs

759
00:31:48,130 --> 00:31:51,430
recently there were 40 plus people in

760
00:31:50,110 --> 00:31:53,800
the audience afterwards a young

761
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:56,830
gentleman came up to me he was maybe in

762
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:59,950
his early 20s and he said he's from he's

763
00:31:56,830 --> 00:32:01,990
a teachers at a university and he's on

764
00:31:59,950 --> 00:32:04,420
the entrepreneurial path he said thank

765
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:06,640
you so much that presentation which was

766
00:32:04,420 --> 00:32:08,320
a presentation about the high level

767
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,330
things of what I teach in the book he

768
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,770
said that was so inspiring thank you

769
00:32:10,330 --> 00:32:14,410
that made a difference for me and when

770
00:32:11,770 --> 00:32:16,480
people tell me that course extremely

771
00:32:14,410 --> 00:32:18,760
happy that that happened to them but I

772
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,860
always asked back so what was the top

773
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,240
takeaway for you so that they can tell

774
00:32:20,860 --> 00:32:24,250
me you know what was it that made the

775
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,620
difference from from the one hour that I

776
00:32:24,250 --> 00:32:28,810
talked right and he said to me ah that's

777
00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:31,060
a great question let me think he thought

778
00:32:28,810 --> 00:32:33,550
for a moment and then he replied well I

779
00:32:31,060 --> 00:32:36,280
now know that the inner critic and the

780
00:32:33,550 --> 00:32:38,140
real me are separate I always thought

781
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,490
that when that negative voice came up

782
00:32:38,140 --> 00:32:41,110
and I would hear it in my head I always

783
00:32:39,490 --> 00:32:43,540
thought that was me I always thought

784
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:45,220
that that was the truth now I know that

785
00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:47,590
I can actually separate that and not

786
00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:50,290
listen to that and let me tell you

787
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:52,360
Laurie as someone doing what I do for

788
00:32:50,290 --> 00:32:55,030
the purposes of what I do I was ecstatic

789
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,530
I was like yes you know that a must that

790
00:32:55,030 --> 00:32:59,320
was brought me joy but it was like

791
00:32:56,530 --> 00:33:01,300
almost tears of joy because if you can

792
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,460
get that from listening to what I said

793
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:05,110
and reading my book then that's that's

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it that's the Holy Grail right there if

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you can get that peace and take that

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forward in your life and move forward

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with your life knowing that from

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that's it that's perfect as a testament

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to the book itself I think that is one

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of the resounding pieces that for me was

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huge as mentioned the tips and tactics

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that you share in the book in applying

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those to assist with negating that

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little voice it definitely has made a

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huge difference so audience you will

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soon see a lot more live broadcast to

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Mary thank you

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they will have you've been awesome and

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we have enjoyed having you on the show

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that show is really designed to help

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entrepreneurs come up with an idea for

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business and an industry that they may

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not have been thinking of and Mary you

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are our very first public speaker on the

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show so and of course having helped me

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as much as you have I can't wait for the

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opportunity to turn around and be able

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to help you so Mary we'd love to know if

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you had a magic wand and could change

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anything at all in your business what

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would it be and why how do you feel it

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would affect not just you but maybe the

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public speaking industry is whole and

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you know I'm very passed about what I do

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and and all of the things we've talked

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about and the message of the inner

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critic and how that affects us in public

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speaking and in life as well that is my

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passion that I'm out to spread that

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message so if I had a magic wand I would

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just let this message go viral as much

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as possible so that as many people can

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hear it as many people can experience

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the effects of of the separating inner

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critic and knowing how to handle it so

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that it doesn't stop there

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authentic self from come through and

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doing what what their own inner calling

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is asking them to do that is what I'd

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love helping is to just spread this

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message and and let it go far and wide

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as much as thankful listeners definitely

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00:35:08,420 --> 00:35:13,250
be sure to retweet and reshare and make

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sure that you guys help us get this

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message out there because I think it is

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an important one there are many many

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people across the globe struggling with

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their inner critic that doesn't shut up

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we need to get that link up

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that everybody else can figure it out

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you know with the use of the book and

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and your assistants where you've been

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outstanding please share the best way

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for our listeners to find you

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sure so my website is magnetic podium

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calm aural one word magnetic podium calm

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when you first go to the website there

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is a opting page where you can put in

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your name and email address and you will

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receive a short report top three tips or

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top three misconceptions around public

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speaking so you'll get that PDF for free

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so please sign up for that and also I

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obviously have my book as we've spoken

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about you can get that on Amazon my you

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can look up my last name which is CH e

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YN e mary jean marius ma ry last name CH

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e whiny and you'll see that book pop up

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within two weeks it became Amazon

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bestseller and one of the best things I

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loved about reading the reviews if

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someone said they last this is the pink

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elephant in the room that nobody

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addresses in public speaking exactly how

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I feel around it so certainly I download

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the book or by the paperback of the book

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from Amazon and use those tools within

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your life and share it with others I

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00:36:34,620 --> 00:36:40,620
also have a bunch of other options that

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I have that people can find me and work

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with me around

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I have live boot camps I have private

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coaching and if you already know that

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you are a serious student and you'd like

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to find out more and have a conversation

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with me

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you can book a free 15 minute

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conversation with me to see how I might

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be able to help you and learn more about

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your goals in public speaking and in

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general and for that you go to calendly

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comm 4th slash magnetic podium calendly

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is ca l en d ly comm forward slash

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magnetic podium and from there you'll be

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able to book a free call with me and we

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can chat in further detail about you

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excellent I will be sure to put a link

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to both the call as well as the book and

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your home page Mary so that they can

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definitely get in touch and get some

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help with their public speaking and

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getting their inner critic to shut up

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very human outstanding thank you thank

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you so much for joining us today

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and thank you for having me it was a

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lovely to speak with you Mary thank you

907
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again for joining us and for sharing

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your time and expertise tucky community

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how is it that fear manifests for you

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think about it and if you need help

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silencing your inner critic be sure to

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reach out to Mary Sheen over at magnetic

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podium comm you can always reach her

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through our show notes page at

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technology equality comm forward slash

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Mary Sheen thank you again for joining

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us here for episode 71 and until our

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next episode when we continue to hear

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the journey find the pain and create

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solutions enjoy the week

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[Music]

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you

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